{"id":2165,"date":"2024-02-28T15:54:46","date_gmt":"2024-02-28T15:54:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/americangunpeople.com\/?p=2165"},"modified":"2024-02-28T15:54:46","modified_gmt":"2024-02-28T15:54:46","slug":"anglers-disqualified-from-tournament-say-mandatory-polygraphs-are-b-s","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/americangunpeople.com\/?p=2165","title":{"rendered":"Anglers Disqualified from Tournament Say Mandatory Polygraphs Are B.S."},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<p>&#8220;Who wants to be called a liar when you know you were doing the right thing?&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"flex mt-6 mb-8\">\n<div class=\"basis-16 lg:hidden\">\n\t\t\t\n\t\t<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-byline lg:flex lg:flex-wrap lg:gap-x-5 lg:gap-y-2 w-full \">\n<div class=\"flex items-center\">\n<p class=\"byline-item font-tertiary font-normal text-sm text-secondary-lighter capitalize mb-0\">Posted on February 27, 2024<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"w-full h-full mb-3 object-center\" src=\"https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?w=2000\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=1536,960 1536w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=720,450 720w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=320,200 320w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=1056,660 1056w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=640,400 640w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=1338,836 1338w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=1104,690 1104w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=346,216 346w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=646,404 646w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=1430,894 1430w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=1203,752 1203w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=1110,694 1110w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=280,175 280w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=1440,900 1440w, https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/disqualified_anglers_bash_polygraph_tests_feature.jpg?resize=50,31 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" fetchpriority=\"high\" alt=\"A Connecticut angler holds up a big bluefish.\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"font-tertiary font-normal text-sm text-secondary-lightest\">Tim Vallee holds up the roughly 15-pound bluefish that would have taken second place in the tournament had he not been disqualified for failing a lie-detector test.  Photographs by Waterbury Deep Sea Fishing Club<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"\">\n<p>The effectiveness of using polygraph tests in fishing tournament scenarios has long been debated among professional anglers and fishing leagues. This debate has sprung up anew on the East Coast, where two amateur anglers claim they were wrongly disqualified from the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/bluefishtournament\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Greatest Bluefish Tournament on Earth<\/a> in August after they each failed one of these tests.<\/p>\n<p>Benny Sheen and Tim Vallee, who were competitors and not fishing together, told reporters last week that they caught their fish fair and square. Both men say they still don\u2019t understand how they failed the local tournament\u2019s lie-detector tests, which are mandatory for any angler who finishes in the top three spots. Sheen stood to take first place and a cash prize of $25,000, while Vallee would have taken second place and won $7,500. The third- and fourth-place finishers ended up placing first and second as a result.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was almost two weeks later when I got a letter that says I was disqualified,\u201d Vallee told <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcconnecticut.com\/investigations\/nbc-ct-responds\/fair-fishing-polygraph-testing-used-in-local-bluefish-tournament\/3222733\/?fbclid=IwAR2Gdv7wR7hkv08mP712qWZc0ruzuV1U-L2tftdcbkXOplraKTvLAYBehsk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">NBC CT<\/a>.<\/em> \u201cWhat do my children think? They think I was lying? What does my family think? You know? I think it casts doubt on my integrity.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-instagram wp-block-embed-instagram\"\/>\n<p>A spokesperson for the tournament told <em>NBC CT <\/em>that participants are given every opportunity to retake a polygraph as long as they make themselves available before the final deadline. But Vallee shared emails with the news outlet in which he asked for a retest multiple times but was told he couldn\u2019t contest the results.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a little fishy, to be honest \u2026 how they didn\u2019t offer him a second one,\u201d said Sheen, who was offered a second polygraph test but couldn\u2019t coordinate a retest date in time. \u201cWho wants to be called a liar when you know you were doing the right thing?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Fishing aboard his friend\u2019s boat, Sheen caught a giant bluefish during the tournament that weighed more than 20 pounds. He claims that he was fishing within sight of several other competing boats, and that he never did anything out of the ordinary or broke any tournament rules. His friend who was captaining the boat confirmed that the catch was legitimate and said he had the photographs to prove it.<\/p>\n<p>Vallee, meanwhile, caught his 15.18-pound bluefish while fishing with some buddies from the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100063174853866\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Waterbury Deep Sea Fishing Club<\/a> aboard the <em>Tartan II<\/em>, a charter boat based in Connecticut. Vallee and his fishing buddies say at least seven people witnessed him land the fish on his own.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have everybody in the boat [who] witnessed the catch,\u201d said Mike Stepski, captain of the <em>Tartan II<\/em>. \u201cFor some reason, he failed the lie-detector test, and I don\u2019t even understand how that\u2019s possible.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Kristin Okesson, who manages the radio group that runs the tournament, told <em>NBC CT<\/em> that polygraphing potential winners was a \u201cwell-established tradition.\u201d The local tournament has been held for 41 years running, and Okesson said that before 2023, only one competing angler had ever failed a polygraph test.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, <a href=\"https:\/\/axeligence.com\/applicant-consultants-on-polygraph-test-accuracy\/#:~:text=Critics%20say%20the%20underlying%20problem,stress%2C%20which%20can%20affect%20accuracy.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">research has shown<\/a> that these tests are notoriously unreliable. The American Psychological Association says there is little evidence that polygraph tests can accurately detect lies since they rely on physiological indicators like the tester\u2019s blood pressure and heart rate, and \u201cthere is no evidence that any pattern of physiological reaction is unique to deception.\u201d This can lead to both false positives and false negatives.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAn honest person may be nervous when answering truthfully and a dishonest person may be non-anxious,\u201d the APA wrote <a href=\"https:\/\/www.apa.org\/topics\/cognitive-neuroscience\/polygraph\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">in a 2004 paper<\/a> claiming the technology was inherently problematic. \u201cOne reason that polygraph tests may <em>appear <\/em>to be accurate is that subjects who believe that the test works and that they can be detected may confess or will be very anxious when questioned. If this view is correct, the lie detector test might be better called a fear detector.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read Next:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/fishing\/disqualified-kansas-record-crappie-stuffed-with-ball-bearings\/\">Investigation Reveals Kansas Record Crappie Was Stuffed with Ball Bearings<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This explains why some tournament organizers oppose the use of polygraph tests. Although they\u2019re commonplace in most professional bass fishing circuits, one local tournament organizer in New York <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/fishing\/another-walleye-stuffing-cheater-new-york\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">who caught an angler cheating last summer<\/a> told <em>Outdoor Life<\/em> he doesn\u2019t believe in lie-detector tests because he thinks they do more harm than good in tournament settings.<\/p>\n<p>Vallee would agree, and he said the Waterbury Deep Sea Fishing Club would not be participating in the Long-Island based tournament going forward. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cCatching the fish seems to be the easy part,\u201d he said. \u201cPassing that polygraph test is the hard part.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outdoorlife.com\/fishing\/disqualified-tournament-anglers-bash-polygraph-tests\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Who wants to be called a liar when you know you were doing the right thing?&#8221; Posted on February 27, 2024 Tim Vallee holds up the roughly 15-pound bluefish that would have taken second place in the tournament had he not been disqualified for failing a lie-detector test. 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